Question:
does any1 hav any information about the swine flu jab?
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
does any1 hav any information about the swine flu jab?
Ten answers:
?
2009-11-12 12:01:46 UTC
I am definitely not an authority about these issues but have an interesting article from a doctor who is head of our Nuclear Medicine Department and also is a specialist of Thyroid conditions. He says these following steps will help prevent proliferation of the H1N1/Swine flu viruses and also will act in the same way as having the vaccine. Since the nose, mouth and throat are the only portals of entry these are more subject to keep clean as possible. Gargle at least twice a day with warm salt water or Listerine if you prefer. Cleanse your nasal passages with warm salt water solution with Q-tips or a squirt bulb at least once a day. These will help prevent proliferation of bacteria entering your system. Also drink as much warm water and a lot of other fluids to act in the same way as Gargling except in the reverse direction to wash off and cleanse your mouth and throat and pass into your stomach where the bacteria cannot survive and cannot proliferate and cannot do you any further harm. Wash your hands very frequently and keep them clean. Do not touch your face except only to eat food, wash and bath. Take Vitamin C supplements with Zinc to insure a faster absorption into your body and also eat a lot of Vitamin C enriched foods to help build and boost your immunity system and protect you better. I have been using this method for quite a while and even around other people who had the flu bugs and even H1N1 and never got the bug so I feel very trusting of this suggestion from this doctor. Of coarse if you feel sick you can still take 2 Ibuprofen every 4 to 6 hours but continue doing this to flush what ever out of your system. Good Luck and hope this may be of help to you. Congrats on your pregnancy and hope all is going great for you.
Texas RN
2009-11-11 06:06:25 UTC
The H1N1 injection will help you to make antibodies that will safeguard you and your baby against the swine flu strain of the flu. It's no more dangerous or concerning than the regular seasonal flu injection. They are made exactly the same way, using the exact same technique, etc. Because you are pregnant you are considered immuno-compromised at the time being and it is very important that you get both the H1N1 vaccination and the seasonal flu vaccination to protect both you and the baby. Congratulations on your pregnancy! :0)
Katrina
2009-11-11 06:05:14 UTC
Unfortunately every vaccination comes with a percentage of risks. Its a case of making a decision. Do the negatives outweigh the positives or vice versa? I know in the news recently I've heard a few horror stories about pregnant women who didn't have the swine flu jab.
doctorellisor.com
2009-11-13 07:40:40 UTC
Consider that the usual answer about efficacy of the swine flu vaccine is as effective as the seasonal flu vaccine...



-A recent study published in the October 2008 issue of the Archives of Pediatric & Adolescent Medicine found that vaccinating young children against the flu had no impact on flu-related hospitalizations or doctor visits during two recent flu seasons. The researchers concluded that “significant influenza vaccine effectiveness could not be demonstrated for any season, age, or setting” examined.

-A study published in the Lancet just two months ago found that influenza vaccination was NOT associated with a reduced risk of pneumonia in older people. Vaccination coverage among the elderly increased from 15 percent in 1980 to 65 percent now, yet there has been no decrease in deaths from influenza or pneumonia.

-That Lancet study supports a similar study done five years ago, published in The New England Journal of Medicine, which concluded that vaccination against pneumonia does not reduce your risk of contracting the disease.

-Research published in the American Journal of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine last month also confirms that there has been no decrease in deaths from influenza and pneumonia, despite the fact that vaccination coverage among the elderly has increased from 15 percent in 1980 to 65 percent now.

-Last year, researchers with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, and the National Institutes of Health published this conclusion in the Lancet Infectious Diseases: “We conclude that frailty selection bias and use of non-specific endpoints such as all-cause mortality have led cohort studies to greatly exaggerate vaccine benefits.”

-A large-scale, systematic review of 51 studies, published in the Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews in 2006, found no evidence that the flu vaccine is any more effective than a placebo in children. The studies involved 260,000 children, age 6 to 23 months.
Jodi Y
2009-11-11 06:10:10 UTC
1. There is no evidence based science that H1N1 vaccine prevents serious complication/death from H1N1.

2. There is no evidence based science that H1N1 vaccine prevents infection with H1N1.

3. There is no evidence based science that H1N1 vaccine is safe for fetuses.

4. There has been NO safety data released by any of the manufacturers of the H1N1 vaccine.



8.1 Pregnancy



Pregnancy Category C: Animal reproduction studies have not been conducted with Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine or AFLURIA. It is also not known whether these vaccines can cause fetal harm when administered to a pregnant woman or can affect reproduction capacity. Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine should be given to a pregnant woman only if clearly needed.



Perhaps you should find a new midwife, if she know so little about vaccinations and how they may compromise you and your unborn baby.
Semaj W
2009-11-11 08:28:05 UTC
Ive seen people get swine flu from the vaccanation.
?
2009-11-11 08:19:58 UTC
First and foremost, congratulations on the pregnancy! I hope the rest of your gestation goes well and you deliver a happy, healthy and flu-free newborn! Now, to answer your question about the 2009 H1N1 Influenza Type-A Virus, or as it is most commonly known “Swine Flu.” This particular strain of the Influenza Type-A Virus has been known to cause higher infection and mortality rates in persons who are most commonly known to be typically unaffected past simple uncomplicated symptoms from the seasonal flu. Thus, persons in population groups considered at higher risk for infection, disability and death with the seasonal flu can be expected to suffer prolonged illness and even more severe complications, including death, when exposed to and infected with the 2009 H1N1 Influenza Type-A Virus.



Groups and individuals that are considered at moderate to higher risk for infection, disability and death include persons who: are less then 16 or over 50 years of age, live in highly populated areas (apartments, prisons, college dormitories, institutional facilities, etc), cannot easily access healthcare or live in poor socioeconomic areas, those who are generally unable to care for themselves, have preexisting heart or lung disease, are already in some form of immunosuppression or immunocompromisation, and women in any stage of pregnancy or those who breastfeed and persons who commonly come into contact with the ill and injured (healthcare workers). Within these subsets, rates of severe infection that cause prolonged illness, chronic disability and even death are higher then those who are not able to fit into any one of those listed. Vaccination against the 2009 H1N1 Influenza Type-A Virus is strongly suggested within this group as their immune system may not be competent enough to prevent severe infection.



You asked about the safety of the 2009 H1N1 Influenza Type-A Virus in pregnancy and its safety to mother and fetus. All medications dispensed within the United States are regulated by the FDA and the USP (United States Pharmacopeia) and are tested for safety in pregnancy using an A-D & X scale. The rating of A is for drugs tested on humans that were safe during pregnancy, B indicates the same but only tested on animals, where as a rating of D and X constitute medications that should be taken only when a conditions exists where the mother may die due to illness as it may be harmful or has demonstrated to be harmful to the fetus. Currently, the 2009 H1N1 Influenza Type-A Virus Vaccination (monvalent inactivated – shot) has carries a rating of Pregnancy Safety Class A and the Live Attenuated Influenza Vaccine (LAIV – nasal spray) Class A or Class B (ask your doctor which you are getting). Those who are pregnant SHOULD NOT receive the LAIV when pregnant but can after delivery even when breastfeeding.



Every vaccination is made basically the same way. A selected virus is taken and protein (or “PARTS”) of the virus, are cultured and replicated. These “parts” are not enough to cause the symptoms or the actual infection they vaccinate against, as they are incomplete structures of a whole. These inactivated “parts” are then injected or instilled into the nasal passage (LAIV) and absorbed by the body which then produces cells that can identify (antibodies) the foreign cells (antigens) and eliminate them. Think of it in this matter, a clown (virus) just robbed a bank. As he flees bystanders (antibodies) use the physical characteristics that make him stand out (antigens) so they can identify him for the police (white blood cells). As plain and simple as that is, you immune system is quite complicated.



Any medication that could cause fetal harm or death (teratogenic or embryocidal) would be clearly labeled and marked Pregnancy Safety Class C, D or X. All vaccinations against the 2009 H1N1 Influenza Type-A Virus do not show, using the most recent and available clinical data, from the latest published reports by the Centers for Disease Control and the National Institute of Health, to cause any form or risk to an embryo or fetus in the first or later stages of pregnancy. However, women who are subsequently infected and made ill from the 2009 H1N1 Influenza Type-A Virus previous to vaccination have a higher rate or mother mortality and fetal demise then other at-risk groups. Although there is a statistically small, if not negligible, rate of possible adverse reaction to ANY vaccination, the risks of infection (illness, disability and death) from declination of vaccination may be much greater then that of an adverse reaction. You need to speak to you qualified healthcare provider well versed in pharmacology to know which is which. If your Nurse Midwife doesn’t know enough, talk to a pharmacist or family practitioner.



I hope this was enough to get you to realize it’s well worth the time and effort to get vaccinated. The low risk to your baby and protection against this proven killer is a no-brainer when you look at the data. Keep in mind we’re just now starting the actual “flu season” and this virus came up months before during the “off season.” Imagine how much worse this will be in December! Stay happy, stay aware, stay informed and stay HEALTHY!



Please contact me direct if you have any further questions.



R. Lorenzo, PMD, C-COHC, ACS, NAEMT-M

State Board of Medicine and MQA - Licensed & Practicing Paramedic since 2004; Affiliated Preceptor of Didactic & Clinical Paramedicine Education at a State Dept of Education College, SACS & CoAEMSP Accredited; Administrative Member of Regional Dept of Flight Medicine & Emergent Transfers, Tertiary Hospital; and Contracted Member for a County Fire Rescue Department, a political Division of the State.



Although formally trained as well as Licensed & Certified to practice and instruct advanced pre-hospital medicine by the State Board of Medicine to which I report and various other boards, any answers given here are for information ONLY, they are not to be used to make a diagnosis or as a treatment guideline. ALWAYS seek treatment for conditions that are emergent or symptoms that are unusual for you. Although checked, medicine is ever changing, so you should verify the accuracy of this post with a physician, since most online information isn't verified at all.
2009-11-11 08:12:16 UTC
check the vaccine article on http://www.Swine-Flu-Care.info



Regards,
?
2009-11-11 06:49:57 UTC
The NHS online website should be able to tell you :) www.nhs.co.uk
Dr Frank
2009-11-11 07:22:35 UTC
The best information to date comes from SAGE, the Strategic Advisory Group of Experts on Immunizations, advises the WHO (World Health Organization)



Pregnant women are a group which is at significantly higher risk from this virus than the rest of the population.



Between seven per cent and 10 per cent of all H1N1 patients sick enough to need hospital care so far have been pregnant women, the WHO noted.



The WHO advisory group said animal studies of adjuvanted and non-adjuvanted vaccines as well as live-virus vaccines found "no evidence of direct or indirect harmful effects on fertility, pregnancy, development of the embryo or fetus, birthing, or post-natal development."


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